Ex-Macedonian PM Holds Bulgarian Passport

[WisdomSeeker]

Politics: 16 July 2006, Sunday.

The former prime minister of Macedonia has become Bulgarian as he was granted citizenship of the country's western neighbour.

According to local Struma daily, Ljubcho Georgievski who was premier 1998-2002 has received an address registration in the city of Blagoevgrad, few kilometres away from the Macedonian border. A Bulgarian citizenship was granted also to his wife, Snezhana Georgievska.

It happened with a presidential decree, signed last week by Vice-President Angel Marin, the daily informed.

The news was confirmed by the presidential press office, Bulgarian media said.

Georgievski, who now holds double citizenship, was elected MP in the new parliament of Macedonia following elections on July 5.

About 12,000 applicants submitted documents in 2005 to be considered for Bulgarian citizenship, it was recently announced from 1 Dondukov St. The majority come from Macedonia, Ukraine, Moldova, Russia, Serbia, and Montenegro.

The increasing interest is to a large part explainable with the upcoming EU membership of the Balkan country.


http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=66547
:doh::doh::D:D

[Son Of Macedon]

Man what is this? It is not true, this is old news in our country, we have resolved this issue, Ljubcho does not hold Bulgarian passport.WisdomSeeker you are like a Tabloid man, stop posting thing that are not true

[WisdomSeeker]

Man what is this? It is not true, this is old news in our country, we have resolved this issue, Ljubcho does not hold Bulgarian passport.WisdomSeeker you are like a Tabloid man, stop posting thing that are not true

The date is Sunday,16th of July,2006.Old news? to me it seems a yesterday date.

I have not invented this up,its a bulgarian news agency ive found navigating in another forum,unlike you that you like claiming things only from .mk sites.

If you have any problems and regard this a false notice,write an email to them,dont complain to me.

May i ask how did you resolve this? (not being sarcastic here,im just curious,really)

[Knez_Nenad_Of_Serbia]

Why is SOM so angry that his former president holds a dual citizenship? What is so horribly wrong with that?

[WisdomSeeker]

Why is SOM so angry that his former president holds a dual citizenship? What is so horribly wrong with that?
It bugs him that his ex PM feels himself a Bulgarian i guess;)

[gjore]

Man, what's up with you?
He can even feel Greek if he wants too, why should we care?
Actually, the former president Boris Trajkovski (God rest his soul) was a protestant, but that wasn't an issue.
Only God knows what the real reasons are for this, but why would it be an issue even if Ljubco does feel bulgarian?

[WisdomSeeker]

Man, what's up with you?
He can even feel Greek if he wants too, why should we care?
Actually, the former president Boris Trajkovski (God rest his soul) was a protestant, but that wasn't an issue.
Only God knows what the real reasons are for this, but why would it be an issue even if Ljubco does feel bulgarian?
Ask SoM about this gjore,i dont know why it bugs him if the ex PM of FYRO Macedonia has declared he feels Bulgarian..

He stated the truth ,or better,he expressed himself freely. I dont have any problem with that. I have just posted yesterday's news after all;)

[Son Of Macedon]

That is not news, it's not the first time that this has been said, but Ljubco denied it! Anyway as you have said I really don't give a damn how ljubco feels, he can be Jamaican for all I care...

[WisdomSeeker]

That is not news, it's not the first time that this has been said, but Ljubco denied it! Anyway as you have said I really don't give a damn how ljubco feels, he can be Jamaican for all I care...

did he deny it?:?

Because it is clearly said that:


It happened with a presidential decree, signed last week by Vice-President Angel Marin, the daily informed.

The news was confirmed by the presidential press office, Bulgarian media said.



so the presidency of Bulgaria confirmed it....Interesting....

of course we agree here,an ex PM of FYROM who feels as a Bulgarian as every right to do so.

btw,interesting man this Bulgar. there are many documents about his political career during the 90s,when he was the leader of the opposition party:)

[BG_PATRIOT]

The funny thing is that in order for Macedonians to get Bulgarian citizenship they have to provide information about Bulgarian ancestry....LOL Your little dream is slowly falling apart :clap:

[gjore]

actually mr. bg patriot, because of your governments official stance that "all macedonians are bulgarians" we don't really have to prove anything. your ministry gives passports to anyone who requires them as long as he is a macedonian. i know this for a fact since i know many people who applied for and received a bulgarian citizenship. that is only the case if you are a serb-in that case, you will not get a passport even if you are descended from Bulgaria.

I say, a pretty bulgarian way of dealing with things.

[BG_PATRIOT]

You guys are cracking me up!!!!!

We steal Macedonian music!!!!
We don't steal it, "Macedonian" folk is Bulgarian, simply a bunch of Tito brainwashed **** decided to call it Macedonian. :signs038:
In about 10 years when the naturalization process will be over...Vardar Macedonia will once again be part of Bulgaria, from Strumica to Ohrid and from Skopije to Prespa. Bulgarians will be happy, Greeks will be happy, newly cured Bulgarians will be happy, and there you go. No need for a war or bad relations with FYROM to make them undertsand their true identities. After all, do FYROMians really think that the "Macedonian" dream will continue forever. FYROM has no future, the Albanian minority is growing faster than ever, over 1/3 of the population is Albanian, and the country's only way to fight against the misery and an eventual war is by joining the EU, unfortunately that won't happen before 15 years atleast, until them there will be alot of suffering, many more PM will suddently become Bulgarians...so....the smart one that aren't so brainwashed will recognize that living in a lie is not a life, and they will truly admit their real nationality, while the small bunch of dumb ones will still continue believing they are sons of Macedon, then they will die, their children will still belive what their parents believed in, then they will die too and in 50 years the term FYROM will only be appearing in history books.

:signs068:

[Son Of Macedon]

See, you don't understand one thing, we are different, we would rather be FYROMIANS for the rest of our lives then Bulgarians for a day. Get it? We don't like Bulgaria, here there is a common thought that everything from Bulgaria is simply fake(the people included) For christ's sake, we would never ever have a person like Azis on our TV! That is DISGUSTING! :doh: :doh: :doh:

So you may talk jibberish all you want, but the only thing I see happening in the near future is Macedonian reunion with Pirin Macedonia....

P.S. I hope the pressure EU put on you to recognize OMO Ilinden is the first step of your total dismision of any teories like "Edin Narod Dve Drzavi", crazy bull*hit!!

[BG_PATRIOT]

Huh...right Pirin Macedonia separating....

My dear friend, you should now one thing in a country like Bulgaria that is steps away from joining the EU, there cannot be separation because of ethnicities. Let's just say that OMO Illinden becomes legal...so what...the small number of dumbasses that will vote for this joke will only throw their votes out the window...H OMO will never enter the Bulgarian Parliament, there will never be a referendum if Pirin would want to join FYROM because simply the EU will not allow it. On the other hand having FYROM join Bulgaria, well that is another story, for a country whose European integration is really far away, having to united with a future member of the EU, will be a good opportunity for a faster integration, once the borders will be gone, the investments will start coming in Vardar, and being exposed to a much larger market will making life in Vardar much easier.

[Makeveli]

Come on now guys, you are all wrong :D :D :D
Your all Serbs in denial :D :D :D

But seriously guys ?! what is the problem ?? I have had for a long time 2 passport, so what ??

[BG_PATRIOT]

Come on now guys, you are all wrong :D :D :D
Your all Serbs in denial :D :D :D

But seriously guys ?! what is the problem ?? I have had for a long time 2 passport, so what ??

Well the thing is that in order to get Bulgarian citizenship, FYROMians have to prove that they are of Bulgarian ancestry. In 2004, there were 11 000 people that were granted Bulgarian citizenship; In 2005, there were 22 400 people that were granted Bulgarian citizenship, most of them were mainly coming from FYROM followed by Moldova. Even their ex-PM was granted Bulgarian citizenship. So you see,slowly more and more FYROMians will want BG citizenship because Bulgaria is on verge of entering the EU, so they will be able to travel easier, some will get back in Pirin Macedonia to live with relatives. There are already alot of FYROMian students going to the biggest University of Bulgaria in Sofia, St. Kliment Ohridski, many others spend their summer vacations on the Bulgaria seaside since the language and the atmosphere feels closer. As time goes the the lie will fade and I have mentionned already what will happen, just this little push was needed from the Bulgarian diplomacy in order to show the way.

[tsunami]

My opinion, is that Fyrom will join Serbia eventually.

It might come as present after the division that Serbia has been submitted to.

Even the Montenegrins detached!

[Balozi]

yes and then they will join with greece and then all together will go on albania :P lol

the best guess about fyrom's future is that it will remain as it is, and will be recognized as "republic of macedonia" by all (maybe except greece :P)

the second best guess but with a large difference, is that it will split between albania and bulgaria

another good guess would be that albanians will become independent and the rest will remain macedonia

[gjore]

tsunami said: "My opinion, is that Fyrom will join Serbia eventually.
It might come as present after the division that Serbia has been submitted to.
Even the Montenegrins detached! "


OMG! :0
What kind of a braindead dumbass statement is that!?! you show zero understanding of the political sutuation in both Macedonia and Serbia, maximum ignorance of how political processes work... little kid, why don't you grow up and come to the net 6 or 7 years later. go watch teletabbies or something.

[tsunami]

So, can you explain to me how political processes function?

How do you create a a new State? and how do you annexe certain areas?

Under the laissez-faire capitalistic system that we are all bound to?

I really can't wait! :trampolin

[gjore]

lets just say that states don't get annexed when bearly in puberty didn't have sex yet little greek expansionist boys wish so.

[tsunami]

When you decide to put something forward...or at least research a bit before you start spitting out idiocies let me know, and we shall discuss civilly.

Until then, just Look, Listen and Learn.

[albgene]

You guys are cracking me up!!!!!

FYROM has no future, the Albanian minority is growing faster than ever, over 1/3 of the population is Albanian, and the country's only way to fight against the misery and an eventual war is by joining the EU, unfortunately that won't happen before 15 years atleast, until them there will be alot of suffering, many more PM will suddently become Bulgarians...so....the smart one that aren't so brainwashed will recognize that living in a lie is not a life, and they will truly admit their real nationality, while the small bunch of dumb ones will still continue believing they are sons of Macedon, then they will die, their children will still belive what their parents believed in, then they will die too and in 50 years the term FYROM will only be appearing in history books.

:signs068:

If we had a thread on "Dumbest posts", you'd certainly get my vote. What do you mean by this though "FYROM has no future, the Albanian minority is growing faster than ever, over 1/3 of the population is Albanian," ? So what the Albanian minority is growing faster? Those are ethnic Albanians. We should put on an Albanian 1 800 number for all you impotent ******* who bring up that argument.

I've said this in the past too, Macedonia aka Fyrom should worry only of Albanians. Greece will always continue with her dirty political games but that would never danger the territorial integrity of Macedonia. Bulgaria, Serbia are in no position whatsoever to even come into the discussion. This leaves only the Albanians in the picture who make up a considerable chunk of Macedonia's population, moreover with the independence of Kosovo, Macedonia will see herself sharing half of her borders with Albanian governments.

[Son Of Macedon]

I've said this in the past too, Macedonia aka Fyrom should worry only of Albanians.

And would you mind telling me why is Macedonia to worry of Albanians? Don't all those Albanians you mentioned live in a country named Macedonia? Are they not supposed to love and protect the country that they all live in? The country that gives them shelter from anything like the NATO Bombings over Kosovo? The country that recognizes and gives them rights like they do not have in their native country???:?
Don't bother to answer friend I know what you are saying, and I fear that you might be right, but I sincerley hope that they will come to understand that it's better for all of us if they start to respect their homeland, instead of dreaming about Great Albania:thumbdown

[gjore]

albgene, i know that it's paradoxical because there was a war only 5 years ago and the DUI party is still threatening with a war because they didn't enter the government, but in the moment our best relations are exactly with Albania. I understand your point, and i know when you said albanians you ment macedonian albanians, but it's still a very interesting situation. I just hope that macedonian albanians start to realise that DUI and other parties which are threatening with a war don't care for the ordinary people, but only for their interests.

i mean, lets analyse the situation a little bit.

2001- a war. The Ohrid framework peace agreement signed.

2002- former terrorists DUI enter government

2006- Framework agreement fulfilled. Election held. DPA(DUI's albanian rival) enter government. DUI stays in opposition and threatenes with civil war unless they enter government instead of DPA. VMRO offers them to enter alongside DPA, they REFUSE.

so, what do they want now? all their requests from the agreement were fulfilled, there is an albanian party in government. What do they want. POWER, pure and simple. they don't care for the worker or for the farmer, only for them. I just hope albanians realise this.

[tsunami]

"They REFUSE"

You Albo's, will never learn to be diplomatic and efficient. I believe that your American "daddies" have put too much air in your heads. So you are actually asking for the whole of Fyrom now?

Dudes, when will you learn that country's "annexation" nowadays are made through the banks?

Anyway, ill stop here cause i certainly dont want to wake you up that much.

Hint:
Before you make anymore, just check out your Bank (http://www.economywatch.com/banks/commercial-banks/europe-and-central-asia/albania-banks.html) , Postal and Savings Institutions.;)

[Balozi]

ok i think the point of this thread is made and now it's all going off topic :P

closing it