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Amin
Tue, 12th December 2006, 18:50:20
In his explanation of Riyaadhus-Saaliheen (Volume 1, Pages 165-166), whilst giving some points of benefit from the hadeeth of Suhayb, Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen said:

"That Allaah¹s Messenger, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), said:

((There used to be a king amongst those who came before you, and he had a sorcerer. So when he grew old he said to the king: "I have become old so send a boy to me so that I can teach him sorcery?")) ...the hadeeth. (refer to Riyaadhus-Saaliheen - hadeeth no.30 for full text).

It is permissible for a person to expose himself to danger for a matter of general benefit to the Muslims, because the boy indicated to the king the way in which he would be able to kill him, and which would lead to his demise, which was that he should take an arrow from his quiver ? etc.

Shaykh al-Islaam (Ibn Taymiyyah) said:

((Because this was a Jihaad in Allaah¹s cause, which caused a whole nation to truly believe, and he did not really lose anything, since although he died he would have to die anyway, sooner or later)).

But as for what some people do regarding activities of suicide, tying explosives to themselves and then approaching disbelievers and detonating them amongst them, then this is a case of suicide * and Allaah¹s refuge is sought. So whoever commits suicide then he will be considered eternally to Hell-Fire, remaining there forever, as occurs in the hadeeth of the Prophet, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam). (i.e., his, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), saying:

((and whoever kills himself with an iron weapon, then the iron weapon will remain in his hand, and he will continuously stab himself in his belly with it in the Fire of Hell eternally, forever and ever)). Reported by al-Bukhaaree, no. 5778 and Muslim, no. 109, in the Book of Eemaan.)

Because this person has killed himself and has not benefited Islaam. So if he kills himself along with ten, or a hundred, or two hundred other people, then Islaam will not benefit by that, since the people will not accept Islaam, contrary to the story of the boy. Rather it will probably just make the enemy more determined, and this action will provoke malice and bitterness in his heart to such an extent that he may seek to wreak havoc upon the Muslims.

This is what is found from the practice of the Jews with the people of Palestine * so when one of the Palestinian blows himself up and kills six or seven people, then in retaliation they take sixty or more. So this does not produce any benefit for the Muslims, and does not benefit those amongst whose ranks explosives are detonated.

So what we hold is that those people who perform these suicide (bombings) have wrongfully committed suicide, and that this necessitates entry into Hell-Fire, and Allaah¹s refuge is sought and that this person is not a martyr (shaheed). However if a person has done this based upon misinterpretation, thinking that it is permissible, then we hope that he will be saved from sin, but as for martyrdom being written for him, then no, since he has not taken the path of martyrdom. But whoever performs ijtihaad and errs will receive a single reward (if he is a person qualified to make ijtihaad[the effort a jurist makes in order to deduce the law, which is not self-evident, from it sources.])."

Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen

Amin
Tue, 12th December 2006, 18:55:35
Suicide is when a person kills himself intentionally by whatever means. This is haraam(forbidden) and regarded as amongst the major sins, and likewise included in the general statement of Allaah (Subhaanahu wa Ta'aala):

{And whoever kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell to abide therein, and the Wrath and the Curse of Allaah are upon him, and a great punishment is prepared for him}, [Soorah an-Nisaa, Aayah 93].

And it is established from the Sunnah on the authority of the Prophet (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam) who said:

((Indeed, whoever (intentionally) kills himself, then certainly he will be punished in the Fire of Hell, wherein he shall dwell forever)), [Bukhaaree (5778) and Muslim (109 and 110)].

In reality, the one who commits suicide, generally does so because of his desperate situation, either as a direct result of an act of Allaah or a human being. So you find him unable to cope with that which has afflicted him, and in actual fact he is like one who is calling for help from the scorching heat of the fire. So he has progressed from that which was tough (bad) to that which is worse. And if he was patient, then Allaah would have assisted him in dealing with the difficulty.

Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen

Amin
Tue, 12th December 2006, 19:05:05
"Don’t Abuse the Concept of Jihaad"

RIYADH, 22 August 2003 — Saudi Arabia’s highest religious authority urged Muslims yesterday to shun extremism and avoid waging unjustified jihaad as the Kingdom cracks down on militants.

In a lengthy statement, Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Sheikh told Saudis to listen to their religious authorities and ignore fanatical interpretations of Islaam.

“One of the fallouts from extremism in understanding Islaam is that some people call for jihaad for the sake of God without justification,” Sheikh Abdul Aziz said.

“These people raise the banner of jihaad to draw the young into their ranks and not to fight for God,” he added.

Militants like Al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden have often called for jihaad against countries they consider “infidel” such as the United States, urging his followers to target Western interests in Saudi Arabia and abroad.

Other militants have also used Islaam as a rallying cry, justifying attacks by saying they are doing God’s will.

“Young Muslims must try and better themselves and their country but not through violence, because Islaam is not a violent religion, it is a merciful religion,” he said.

“A Muslim must understand his religion. It is the duty of the young and the whole Muslim world to know that violence is not a way to achieve reform,” Al-Sheikh said.

The grand mufti emphasized that the struggle against a perceived evil should not lead to a greater evil.

“The Prophet (peace be upon him) told us to combat evil. But there is a general rule to look at both advantages and disadvantages. And if fighting an evil leads to a greater one, then that fight is forbidden,” he said.

The grand mufti said one of the reasons some people attacked and frightened others was ignorance.

“Ignorance is a killer disease because a person thinks that he is right when he is wrong,” he said and stressed the importance of right guidance. “One of the reasons also is mistrust of our scholars. It is people’s duty to trust their scholars and leaders,” he said.

Last week, the Kingdom’s highest Islaamic authority denounced terror attacks in the Kingdom, describing them as “serious criminal acts,” and pledged its full support for the government.

“Acts of sabotage such as bombings, murder and destruction of property are serious criminal acts and an aggression against innocent people... which warrant severe and deterrent punishment,” the Council of Senior Islaamic Scholars said in a statement.

The 17-member council, headed by the grand mufti, declared its support for the actions being taken by the state to track down terrorists in an effort to shield the country from their actions.

The Islaamic body had called on the Saudi people to “stand behind the country’s leadership and their scholars,” at these difficult times in the fight against “evildoers.”

The statement dubbed “misguided and ignorant” those who claim that terrorism was part of jihaad, or holy war. It said people who provide shelter to suspected militants were committing a “grave sin.”

Defintion of the Jihaad: to strive hard, or to fight to defend one`s life, property, freedom, and religion. It can also refer to an attempt to free other people from oppression and tyranny. Importantly, Islaam strongly opposes kidnapping, terrorism, or hijacking against civilian targets, even at the time of war.

Makeveli
Tue, 12th December 2006, 19:42:28
"Don’t Abuse the Concept of Jihaad"

Defintion of the Jihaad: to strive hard, or to fight to defend one`s life, property, freedom, and religion. It can also refer to an attempt to free other people from oppression and tyranny. Importantly, Islaam strongly opposes kidnapping, terrorism, or hijacking against civilian targets, even at the time of war.

I have read your post Amin, but there is one thing i don't understand, maby you can help me out here..
I don't know many things about the Qur'an but what i do know is that it's context is being interpreted differently..

Now how is it possible that when you read it and Osama Bin Laden you both read the same words of Allah and still interpreted something TOTAL opposite :?

Amin
Tue, 12th December 2006, 20:19:12
I have read your post Amin, but there is one thing i don't understand, maby you can help me out here..
I don't know many things about the Qur'an but what i do know is that it's context is being interpreted differently..

Now how is it possible that when you read it and Osama Bin Laden you both read the same words of Allah and still interpreted something TOTAL opposite

Try to understand those people's mindset, so you would understand why or how. Considering what America and Israel(both states) are doing with their military forces in Middle East, those two states are also constantly killing civilians as well. The opposite side do not have even comparable military equipment. So, the way of thinking of Al-Qaeda or Hamas, is if the enemy attacked Muslim population and kills women, children and elderly, they think that they(al-qaeda and hamas) have also right to bring terror to enemies' states. They want to bring the war to US and Israeli territories. That's what it is, the word terror means to bring fear. In their mind, it is justified to kill enemies' civilians when they are doing the same in Middle East.

Osama Bin Laden cannot declare Jihaad. He is not a Caliph (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliph).
He is not even Islamic scholar who posses great knowledge of Islam. Only Islamic scholars are entitled to give religious opinions(fatwas) and usually opinions of majority of scholars are accepted.

People who don't have knowledge about Islam are easy to be manipulated, they follow people like Bin Laden only cause they share hate for what US is doing. Some of them see Bin Laden as a hero, fighting against American tyranny.

Taking parts of Suras out of context and not knowing their fully meaning can poison young peoples' minds.

Palestinians who are doing suicide bombings have never been to any kind of Islamic schools. Their knowledge is very poor and they do desparate things when they are left to fight only with stones. They know that they have rights to fight the opression, but they don't know that suicide is not the way. This could be compared to how Pope promised place in Paradise for those who join to crusades.

There are Muslims who memorize the whole Qur'an, but if they don't know the meaning, then it's all in vain. Example there are codes for nice behaviour among Muslims and non-Muslims in the Quran and Sunnah, and still there are in this world Muslims who don't know how to behave at all and don't have any manners. Maybe poverty and hunger led to this.. people don't know that obligation of every Muslim man and woman is to seek knowledge.

Makeveli
Tue, 12th December 2006, 21:43:41
oke thanks, that cleard up a lot..
I always assumed that poeple who kill in the name of islam at least know islam...

So it's true that stupid poeple are the most dangerous one's ...

TurkishDelight
Wed, 13th December 2006, 10:03:56
Suicide bombers are work of Satan not the Islam. That is that. Anybody says otherwise wheter do not know Islam or delibaretely distorting it.