World Cup 2010 Qualifiers

[Balozi]

today it starts. fortunately our 2 opening games are at home so we are hopeful for a good start. i think we will beat malta but sweden will be difficult

go go go! :clap:

[Balozi]

albania 0:0 sweden

not bad :clap:

[KASTRIOTI]

Shame we didn't score. We had a very good chance with Berisha in the very last minute of extra time.

Oh well, a 0-0 draw ain't that bad for a starter match.

Hope we thrash Malta on wednesday.

[Balozi]

dont forget they had a post

[Bardhi]

go albania goo :D.... PERPARA BURRA!!! :P

[Balozi]

let's hope we win against malta. anything less than a win will be shooting ourselves on the foot

urraaaaaaaaaaa!! :P

[Alalzia]

Glorious Greece beaten the Giants of Luxembourg 3-0 playing as crap as usual .

*I don't see how anyone could fail to win Malta ( unless we talk about Hungary )

[Balozi]

well they will as usual put 11 men in front of goal so it's not as easy as it looks. we need some individual brilliance there. we do have some players who can provide but let's just hope it works

[Balozi]

i vote this team against malta

-----------------Beqaj----------------

Dallku-------Beqiri----Curri------Vangjeli

-------------Cana----Skela-------------

Berisha-----------Salihi------------Hyka

---------------- Bogdani---------------

[harvest]

Glorious Greece beaten the Giants of Luxembourg 3-0 playing as crap as usual .

*I don't see how anyone could fail to win Malta ( unless we talk about Hungary )
Or Turkey :)

[Kula]

Some weird sh1t going on. Lithuania is on a rampage, Montenegro with a population of a medium sized town ties Ireland and Bulgaria, Luxembourg beats Switzerland, Finlands ties with Germany.

[Balozi]

albania 3:0 malta grande arie haan
croatia 1:4 england grande capello

i dont want to irritate our croatian friends but i was sort of happy that they got raped cause in pre-match comments they were like "england is shit we are great we will beat them they suck ha ha ha" and idiocies like that

that's not very wise against england which ok may be permanent underachievers but they're still england. and it's even less wise when their manager is coaching legend fabio capello

so yea...

Group 1

Albania
Sweden
Portugal
Denmark
Hungary
Malta

:D

[harvest]

Group 1

Albania
Sweden
Portugal
Denmark
Hungary
Malta

:D

It's a start, anyway :D First place for the next 15 minutes :)

[Balozi]

denmark equalises portugal 1-1 6 minutes from time and the next minute it's a penalty to portugal! deco converts... 2-1 for portugal looks like we won't be joint first

[Balozi]

i dont think we stand a chance against portugal. our goal for the next 2 games should be getting a draw from hungary

HAHAHA POULSEN WHAT A LEGEND 2-2

what a game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i've always admired poulsen <3

[Balozi]

2-3 IN THE FINAL MINUTE WOW!!!!!!!! WHAT A F*CKIN GAME!!!!!!!!

this is a good moment to start masturbating

[Balozi]

It's a start, anyway :) First place for the next 15 minutes
HAHAHAHA we're first in the group :D

lesson of never giving up from denmark

[Balozi]

bosnia - estonia 7:0 wow

im thinking about helena now she must be cutting her veins with that show of the football team lol :P. and the game was in lisbon :P

[Balozi]

switzerland 1:2 luxembourg

LOL

[Balozi]

gotta feel sorry for malta though, they made a decent effort and only conceded in the last minutes of each half. their 2nd conceded goal was a misfortune their defender hit air instead of the ball and duro scored. i feel sorry for him :(

[Balozi]

SILLY me. As I walked to the Albania v Sweden World Cup qualifier in Albania's capital, Tirana, on Saturday night, I thought a national team was made up of people from, well, one country.

But in the Balkans, it seems, the waters are a bit muddier than that. Here, a national team is made up of people from one nation, regardless of where they call home.

And so I discovered that the Albanian national soccer team has five ethnic Albanian blokes from Kosovo playing in it. Despite the fact that in February, Kosovo was declared independent, inasmuch as a country recognised by 46 countries — including the US and Australia — but not recognised by another 36 countries — including Russia and China — is independent.

Which, let's be honest, isn't the sort of independence that looks likely to field its own soccer team anytime soon. So what do Kosovo's five internationals do? Not play at all? Play for Serbia? Fat chance. Or do they play for Albania, because they're Albanians, after all, just like New Zealanders are Australians. Ermm.

Then what happens if Kosovo does get its own team? Defender Debatik Curri, for one, has declared he will stay in the red and black for reasons of honour: One strong national team is better than two weak ones. Ermm II.

This issue was brought into focus somewhat when my ticket had me seated three rows from the front, on the wing, in the middle of the travelling Kosovar ultras.

They clapped politely when the Swedish national anthem was played — there wasn't a boo in the house — they proudly waved their new blue-and-gold flag, they sat munching on black sunflower seeds until the floor was a carpet of shells like thousands of discarded flies wings, and they showered abuse on the traitorous Bosnian Zlatan Ibrahimovic, playing for Sweden — who was born and raised in Malmo, Sweden. Now call me radical, but I reckon that makes him a bit more Swedish than a bloke who's spent his whole life in Kosovo is Albanian.

When the Kosovars, seated together in a block, started mocking the Albanian Albanians for being lesser supporters, I was truly confused. Then the Macedonian-Albanian mob, seated on the left, started chanting at all the other Albanians: "We're sleeping with your sisters". Which, given they all holiday at the same beaches, may occasionally be true.

Everyone wore the red and black of the Albanian flag, but you could pick the Albanians actually from Albania — they were the ones not spending the entire match telling everyone else how Albanian they were. And there might be a lesson in that.

The match itself was an entertaining nil-all draw. Twin Swedish threats Henrik Larsson and Ibrahimovic failed to make an impact, while Albania, under new Dutch coach Arie Haan, was well organised, worked hard and created many chances.

It also unveiled a new hero, a lightning-fast Lionel Messi lookalike, 20-year-old Jahmir Hyka (Hooh-kah), who regularly beat his man to put in dangerous crosses down the left and had a laser-like shot at goal tipped over the bar.

At the final whistle, the Swedes weren't happy, the keeper kicking the ball away in disgust. Which serves them right for stacking the defence all night and presuming they'd do the business on the counter.

For the Albanians — Albanian, Kosovar, Macedonian and Montenegrin — the draw was a car horn-honking victory to be celebrated.

In the first match of the qualifying campaign, they'd earned one point, but missed another.

the age (http://www.theage.com.au/news/sport/borders-disappear-when-albanians-play/2008/09/10/1220857638772.html)

[Balozi]

although the above article is not entirely positive for our nation it does have some truths in it however the author is also missing a point :P

im just posting it cause i thought it was funny

[Balozi]

i think for the game against portugal we can borrow our 2004-2005 motto: "this is not portugal" :D

[Alalzia]

Looks like the gap between the national teams is closed , we won 0-2 in Latvia playing very good but they do have a decent team .

Many "surprises" last night tho

*People should be free to play for the national teams they like ...ehm... Kosovo isn't in the group stage ?

*Most Luxemburgians are amateur players and a big part of their squad are made of U21 players now making their first regular team appearances ...that was another good lesson for the Swiss

*Balozi i told you that you will beat Malta and the fact that they couldn't run any more after 70' reflects the level of the championship they are playing in.

*Kula in general British Islands teams are not to be trusted for their consistency and Montenegro does have some very good players like Vukcevic , Purovic , Vucinic .

[Balozi]

alalzia yeah on paper we had them beaten already but sometimes things dont go as planned. im sure they will cause someone to lose points. i hope it's not us :P

[harvest]

alalzia yeah on paper we had them beaten already but sometimes things dont go as planned. im sure they will cause someone to lose points. i hope it's not us :P
The only team they can beat is Hungary :) Hope they don't change their mind...

[Balozi]

i just hope we go away from their stadium with the 3 points in the bag. after that, any point they get is a positive thing for us

[Darien]

SILLY me. As I walked to the Albania v Sweden World Cup qualifier in Albania's capital, Tirana, on Saturday night, I thought a national team was made up of people from, well, one country.

But in the Balkans, it seems, the waters are a bit muddier than that. Here, a national team is made up of people from one nation, regardless of where they call home.

And so I discovered that the Albanian national soccer team has five ethnic Albanian blokes from Kosovo playing in it. Despite the fact that in February, Kosovo was declared independent, inasmuch as a country recognised by 46 countries — including the US and Australia — but not recognised by another 36 countries — including Russia and China — is independent.

Which, let's be honest, isn't the sort of independence that looks likely to field its own soccer team anytime soon. So what do Kosovo's five internationals do? Not play at all? Play for Serbia? Fat chance. Or do they play for Albania, because they're Albanians, after all, just like New Zealanders are Australians. Ermm.

Then what happens if Kosovo does get its own team? Defender Debatik Curri, for one, has declared he will stay in the red and black for reasons of honour: One strong national team is better than two weak ones. Ermm II.

This issue was brought into focus somewhat when my ticket had me seated three rows from the front, on the wing, in the middle of the travelling Kosovar ultras.

They clapped politely when the Swedish national anthem was played — there wasn't a boo in the house — they proudly waved their new blue-and-gold flag, they sat munching on black sunflower seeds until the floor was a carpet of shells like thousands of discarded flies wings, and they showered abuse on the traitorous Bosnian Zlatan Ibrahimovic, playing for Sweden — who was born and raised in Malmo, Sweden. Now call me radical, but I reckon that makes him a bit more Swedish than a bloke who's spent his whole life in Kosovo is Albanian.

When the Kosovars, seated together in a block, started mocking the Albanian Albanians for being lesser supporters, I was truly confused. Then the Macedonian-Albanian mob, seated on the left, started chanting at all the other Albanians: "We're sleeping with your sisters". Which, given they all holiday at the same beaches, may occasionally be true.

Everyone wore the red and black of the Albanian flag, but you could pick the Albanians actually from Albania — they were the ones not spending the entire match telling everyone else how Albanian they were. And there might be a lesson in that.

The match itself was an entertaining nil-all draw. Twin Swedish threats Henrik Larsson and Ibrahimovic failed to make an impact, while Albania, under new Dutch coach Arie Haan, was well organised, worked hard and created many chances.

It also unveiled a new hero, a lightning-fast Lionel Messi lookalike, 20-year-old Jahmir Hyka (Hooh-kah), who regularly beat his man to put in dangerous crosses down the left and had a laser-like shot at goal tipped over the bar.

At the final whistle, the Swedes weren't happy, the keeper kicking the ball away in disgust. Which serves them right for stacking the defence all night and presuming they'd do the business on the counter.

For the Albanians — Albanian, Kosovar, Macedonian and Montenegrin — the draw was a car horn-honking victory to be celebrated.

In the first match of the qualifying campaign, they'd earned one point, but missed another.

the age (http://www.theage.com.au/news/sport/borders-disappear-when-albanians-play/2008/09/10/1220857638772.html)

Well guys, I just got back yesterday from my yearly trip to Albania.
I was at the game in Qemal Stafa when we played Sweden.

I was seated between the "Tifozat Kuq e Zi" fans, mostly comprised by Albanians from Kosova and on the far left we had the Albanians from Macedonia.

The entire game I was there we were all cheering for our team. The fans from Kosova are better organized, thus their cheers were more frequent and louder.

The lier who wrote this article, is simply trying to make his article more interesting.
I DID NOT hear any of the Albanians from Kosova or Macedonia, curse and offend ANY Albanians from Albania. Pleeeeease! Give me a break! I WAS THERE right in between both groups. I DID NOT hear such language inside the stadium or in our way in and out of the stadium.

I don't know why this moron is so surprised with Kosovars playing for Albania.

The keyword here is NATION.

Their nationality is ALBANIAN and the soccer teams which are playing are called NATIONAL TEAMS....thus ALBANIAN.

There IS NO NEED to politicize everything. As a matter of fact if Kosova and Albanian want to be represented by the same national team, then why not?? This probably shouldn't be discussed here.

My whole point is that the above article contains few truths and a lot of exaggerated ones.

[Balozi]

welcome back darien. damn i envy you for being in the stadium

as for the article, that particular phrase did seem a bit weird to me but i thought that maybe they were swearing the swedes and this guy misunderstood it

i also said that the author is also missing a few points too, probably because he's australian or something he doesnt understand what a nation means and so all these things may seem weird to him but anyway as i said it was a funny article nonetheless

[Alalzia]

First of all organised fans are pricks , they are always mocking the rest despite if they support the same team ( i am mocking organised fans all the time ).

---strange story follows --

I was present in 1994 (or 1997) Med games final between Greece and Turkey ; some Turkish athletes entered the stadium and golden eggs Nazis attacked them, we attacked the Nazis with police fighting in the middle. Later when the Nazis were thrown out we started cheering for Turkey ....
OAKA stadium has 2 stands a floor and a roof one, we were at the floor , on the roof stand most of the people were AEK supporters ( who we usually tease by calling Turks) , as they listen to us cheering for Turkey they took it as an insult (they thought that we were calling them Turks) and start throwing things down so we got up to the roof stand and the beating began ....

How the hell an Australian reporter could ever explain that?


*Darien WB dude

[Balozi]

man that's totally weird :D

[Balozi]

portugal 0:0 albania :victory:

and we played with 10 men for more than half of the game

great result!!!

[Balozi]

our next two games are malta away and hungary at home

we should give our all to win both games just like we did tonight

go albania!

[Bato]

SILLY me. As I walked to the Albania v Sweden World Cup qualifier in Albania's capital, Tirana, on Saturday night, I thought a national team was made up of people from, well, one country.

But in the Balkans, it seems, the waters are a bit muddier than that. Here, a national team is made up of people from one nation, regardless of where they call home.

And so I discovered that the Albanian national soccer team has five ethnic Albanian blokes from Kosovo playing in it. Despite the fact that in February, Kosovo was declared independent, inasmuch as a country recognised by 46 countries — including the US and Australia — but not recognised by another 36 countries — including Russia and China — is independent.

Which, let's be honest, isn't the sort of independence that looks likely to field its own soccer team anytime soon. So what do Kosovo's five internationals do? Not play at all? Play for Serbia? Fat chance. Or do they play for Albania, because they're Albanians, after all, just like New Zealanders are Australians. Ermm.

Then what happens if Kosovo does get its own team? Defender Debatik Curri, for one, has declared he will stay in the red and black for reasons of honour: One strong national team is better than two weak ones. Ermm II.

This issue was brought into focus somewhat when my ticket had me seated three rows from the front, on the wing, in the middle of the travelling Kosovar ultras.

They clapped politely when the Swedish national anthem was played — there wasn't a boo in the house — they proudly waved their new blue-and-gold flag, they sat munching on black sunflower seeds until the floor was a carpet of shells like thousands of discarded flies wings, and they showered abuse on the traitorous Bosnian Zlatan Ibrahimovic, playing for Sweden — who was born and raised in Malmo, Sweden. Now call me radical, but I reckon that makes him a bit more Swedish than a bloke who's spent his whole life in Kosovo is Albanian.

When the Kosovars, seated together in a block, started mocking the Albanian Albanians for being lesser supporters, I was truly confused. Then the Macedonian-Albanian mob, seated on the left, started chanting at all the other Albanians: "We're sleeping with your sisters". Which, given they all holiday at the same beaches, may occasionally be true.

Everyone wore the red and black of the Albanian flag, but you could pick the Albanians actually from Albania — they were the ones not spending the entire match telling everyone else how Albanian they were. And there might be a lesson in that.

The match itself was an entertaining nil-all draw. Twin Swedish threats Henrik Larsson and Ibrahimovic failed to make an impact, while Albania, under new Dutch coach Arie Haan, was well organised, worked hard and created many chances.

It also unveiled a new hero, a lightning-fast Lionel Messi lookalike, 20-year-old Jahmir Hyka (Hooh-kah), who regularly beat his man to put in dangerous crosses down the left and had a laser-like shot at goal tipped over the bar.

At the final whistle, the Swedes weren't happy, the keeper kicking the ball away in disgust. Which serves them right for stacking the defence all night and presuming they'd do the business on the counter.

For the Albanians — Albanian, Kosovar, Macedonian and Montenegrin — the draw was a car horn-honking victory to be celebrated.

In the first match of the qualifying campaign, they'd earned one point, but missed another.

the age (http://www.theage.com.au/news/sport/borders-disappear-when-albanians-play/2008/09/10/1220857638772.html)

Outsider views are always interesting.

He was right about the fact that albanians from kosova, macedonia and montenegro are more nationalistic than Albanians of Albania.

[Bato]

portugal 0:0 albania :victory:

and we played with 10 men for more than half of the game

great result!!!

And we lost with a full team to a garbage ass Hungary!

It makes me so mad! :angry019:>:(

[Balozi]

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4414/lollololmf5.jpg

[Balozi]

i know we got good results against sweden and portugal and we lost to hungary. the old vice of playing well against strong opponents and bad against weaker ones

[Bato]

Haan needs to play hyka and berisha a lot more. These guys are natural wingers, and can exploit the flanks really well especially againts slower defenders, sending in very good crosses from which opportunities can arise.

[Darien]

Yup definitely more play time for Hyka and Berisha.
I'm tired of slow ass Bogdani too. I'd play two forwards instead of him Salihi and Kapllani.
That way you got 5 strong making attacks
Salihi -------- Kapllani
Hyka----------------Skela--------------Berisha

[Bato]

Yup definitely more play time for Hyka and Berisha.
I'm tired of slow ass Bogdani too. I'd play two forwards instead of him Salihi and Kapllani.
That way you got 5 strong making attacks
Salihi -------- Kapllani
Hyka----------------Skela--------------Berisha


Well you can't exactly play em both at the same time, because most of the time you need two holding midfielders in Cana and Lala.

Duro plays well most often, so I would say sacrifice more time for skela and give it to hyka or berisha.

[Balozi]

malta 0:0 albania

shameful appearance despite our many missing players. arie haan (our coach) stated after the game that he didn't put in 2 forwards because he wanted to hold for the draw

get this ****er out of the team! i hope he gets ran over by a car or something

[harvest]

malta 0:0 albania

shameful appearance despite our many missing players. arie haan (our coach) stated after the game that he didn't put in 2 forwards because he wanted to hold for the draw

get this ****er out of the team! i hope he gets ran over by a car or something
Arie Han is a piece of....cake, let's say! He played with one forward and he changed twice the left defender...Did he have much pressure from Malta? :) A shameful score! Hoooooooooa! But we deserve him (Arie Han) after kicking out Baric...

[dimitris]

malta 0:0 albania

shameful appearance despite our many missing players. arie haan (our coach) stated after the game that he didn't put in 2 forwards because he wanted to hold for the draw

get this ****er out of the team! i hope he gets ran over by a car or something

I would love to see Albania or other "smaller" soccer nations to win the European or World Championship and kick those Germans or Italians asses or other "bigger" soccer nations.That would be so cool.

[Darien]

Han must have been doped out this game, cause he had some dumbass formation.

Why in the world to you start Bogdani, that old f**er, who can't play worth of shit. I hate that motherf**er! He's been doing terrible in Italy and he starts him.

Why did he put in Vangjeli and then subbed him out???Wasted 2 subs right there and for Vangjeli who is our star defender.

Man, I wish Malta would have won, seriously!

[Balozi]

when bogdani missed from 1 meter i was like wtf this guy shouldnt be called again. sure he was good once upon a time but despite many chances he was given in the last 2-3 years he has not shown that he still deserves to be playing for the NT. and lets not forget that he hasnt played a game in italy for like 6 months or what

but it's not his fault i mean if haan selects him then why not. it's the ****ing moron that is our coach who is responsible for this disgraceful image. why did we play with the players that we played with when we have much better options?

as for vangjeli, from what i know he too hasn't played at all this year in greece so normally he was out of form (he got beaten on 2-3 occasions)

it's the 2nd time that haan subs a sub! what idiotic game plan is that?! he deserves zero merit for the draw in portugal if you ask me

our FA is (duka) corrupted to the bone, so u cant expect any better from the lower departments. the fish stinks from the head, as they say

[harvest]

Han out! That is the solution! Should we loose again 6-1 to make him leave? Duka should intervene here... There are at least 3 other forward players better than Bogdani and Han doesn't take any of them in NT. If they do not beat Hungary in Tirana, I will never watch them again, as long as Han is the coach. It was a very bad choice to have him as coach of our team!

[Balozi]

duka intervene? LOL he's the main problem. dont forget he hired him in the first place

i still dont know why baric left

[harvest]

i still dont know why baric left

Well, after loosing 4-2 to Belarus and 6-1 to Romania it was not in his honor to continue any more with some players who didn't want to be coached by him. Both games were lost in this purpose....(according to my footballitstic intelligence, of course)

[Gjergji]

Hann is the probably the wost manager ever that managed our national team. He says that he is duch and likes to play attacking football ,but i think the guy is talking loads of crap ,how can you play for 90 min 4-5-1 against one of the worst team in europe? How can you play bogdani when Chievo dosen't even use him to catch the balls behind the goal.

Then comes the most stupid sub ever made ,he put's vangeli on ,ok nothing wrong with it ,but then after 10 min it takes him off again. :rant: ,he did same think with Hyka against Hungary :bash:. Then 10 min to go he puts another defender on (Andi Lila)O.o. To get a (censored) draw against Malta we rather hide Albanian manager instead of this high paid loser and then he can stick his CV up is arse & go back where he came from.

Sorry guys ,maybe i'm a bit too harsh ,but Malta game left me a bad taste about the future of our team.

[Balozi]

let it out mate, let it out :P

im not aware of any NT fan who doesn't want this junkie out of the team

[Alalzia]

Malta is a tough nut to crack , last time we played in Valletta we only beat them with a penalty at the last minutes.

[Balozi]

that's one thing, playing defensively with 1 attacker is another

[Gjergji]

that's one thing, playing defensively with 1 attacker is another

The thing is in press conference he was happy with the draw? :worthy:

We know we are neither Croatia or Serbia ,but we certinely can beat Malta. Being scared of puting another Fwd and playing defensively just to not lose the match ,now that's really taking the piss.

Watch out against Hungary ,he will play 8-1-1 just to get a draw & save his a$$ from being sacked :D

[Alalzia]

Hungary lost in Malta for 2008 Euro Qualifying group stage

[Balozi]

alalzia you are not getting the point here

WE PLAYED AGAINST MALTA USING A DEFENSIVE FORMATION DO YOU GET IT NOW?!!??!

[Alalzia]

alalzia you are not getting the point here

WE PLAYED AGAINST MALTA USING A DEFENSIVE FORMATION DO YOU GET IT NOW?!!??!

Yep, thats how we played too :)

[Balozi]

i doubt it :P

this is like france playing against albania and fielding a defensive formation lol. and after they get a draw they say they are happy with the point and that they were trying to get a draw anyway

[harvest]

Two games in this week-end for me: Albania - Hungary (hope Albania wins, because if they do not, I will never watch them again) and Romania - Serbia.

[Balozi]

thankfully we will have cana and lala this time. they missed the malta game and look what happened. and bogdani is not called up. lets see if we can make it

[Alalzia]

You can not fail to win against Hungary, they are like the worst team in the planet next to Kiribati .

Greece plays against Israel , i hope that it fails to qualify , i hate all sports media reporting about the national team when they should only have articles about Olympiakos.

[Balozi]

we lost 2-0 to them already. also we drew malta. this albania team sucks, mainly cause of managerial idiocy

[harvest]

Any idea where to watch the game online?

[Balozi]

check out www.myp2p.eu and www.rojadirecta.com for streams

[harvest]

Danke schon!
vitrinat.com

[Balozi]

we're losing 0-1 in half time. the referee is an embarrassment to all referees worldwide and i honestly hope someone throws a filled bottle on his ****ing head

other than that we havent played well and our "best" players have barely been decent. berisha is a ****ing idiot. our defense was embarrassing in the goal not to mention they've lost all set pieces

for the life of me i can't understand why cana is playing defense, him and lala in the midfield could have won us the midfield battle and give us control of the game, but he plays in defense and it's such a waste

[Balozi]

0-1 FT lousy performance but what u expect with this clueless coach

i feel sorry for vangjeli he was horrible tonight but what u expect when he doesn't play with his team. when he did play he was brilliant every time, one of our best players. i hope the poor guy finds a decent team where he can play and recover his form

[Gjergji]

How can someone like Ari Haan make us all look supid?
How can someone like him get payed 250.000 euros A YEAR to finish fifth?
How can someone like him get a license as a proffesional coach? lol
I mean ..even a kitchen porter can put a better tactically team than HAAN. I though he said Berisha wasn't in his plans? Why play him when the guy need's to be shot in the head ..otherwise he won't pass the ball. lol

He played Beqiri all week in training as e C/B ..in the end he puts Cana C/B and leaves Lala all alone as a D/M.

We are losing 0-1 ..he dosen't make a sub until 10 min to go :bash:. Cana was shouting at him to get more fwd by putting another two subs. But No way ..he dosen't listen.

The worst manager ever in our football history.

PLS... OUT.

[Balozi]

yeah it's baffling, really. we should hire an albanian coach who'll actually care about the team and know the players better

most of these foreigners are just a waste of money. they get paid a lot but still finish in positions like 5th. and when we get someone who looks like he'll do something better, we kick them out cause they want a pay raise. well ****ing give him the pay raise and make a decent run for once instead of paying 250k to finish 2nd from the fuking bottom

someone please shoot duka in the head

[Darien]

Look, Ari Han has shown himself to not be the right fit, with the last two games.

He has changed the set pieces and forcing our players to play out of position.

I like that he gave Berisha a chance but should have subbed him. He needs to learn how to pass the ball.

With as much fault that the coach has, I must say our players are not at the professional level we would like them to be. A stupid defense mistake gave away a goal and that was that.

Cana shouldn't have made that move which cost him the game with Danmark. Dallku had lost it and got confused for some reason during that goal.

Vangjeli played like shit too. How does a guy who was keeping up with Ronaldo with Portugal, play like a slow-ass granpa now? I know he hasn't gotten much play time in Greece lately, but still. I wish he would get out of Greece and go somewhere else.

Finally no more foreign coaches!

[Balozi]

vangjeli hasn't played for aris for a year so it's natural that he'd suck. but cana's yellow was totally idiotic, as the replay showed it wasn't even a foul! but before they scored the ref was blowing 100% for their side so what u expect

dallku is an amateur at defending. with the current situation maybe we could have recalled haxhi who at least has been playing to cover the left back position

berisha what can i say, talented but zero end product. that equals useless

[Balozi]

3-0 loss, i was out in my prediction i thought it would end 4-0

haan is so fuking clueless i could keep telling how clueless he is for the next 2 days

he should be fired asap. also i dont want to see in the NT dallku and hidi ever again. they are disgraceful amateurs

vangjeli was the best man in the game from both teams and i find it baffling how this guy is not getting any playing time in a totally unknown team. find a new team in a big league asap

[harvest]

3-0 loss, i was out in my prediction i thought it would end 4-0

haan is so fuking clueless i could keep telling how clueless he is for the next 2 days

he should be fired asap. also i dont want to see in the NT dallku and hidi ever again. they are disgraceful amateurs

vangjeli was the best man in the game from both teams and i find it baffling how this guy is not getting any playing time in a totally unknown team. find a new team in a big league asap

I'd coach them for free and at least we can beat Malta. Haan sucks! The worst coach that Albania has ever had.

[Balozi]

agreed

[Balozi]

bolivia 6:1 argentina

ouch

[Alalzia]

Greece (2) - Israel (1)
I couldn't watch more than 20' before my stomach started to hurt, if this is football i am Napoleon.




vangjeli was the best man in the game from both teams and i find it baffling how this guy is not getting any playing time in a totally unknown team. find a new team in a big league asap

Vangjeli is a defensive full back man, Aris doesn't have any creating midfielders so they use full backs that can run / cross and make things happen , Neto can do that Vangjeli can not.

[Balozi]

vangjeli can't run? ok offensively maybe he is not brilliant but if that's the case it would explain in great extent why this team is 6th and like 10 points behind the 5th. they seem like clueless

aris fans watch till he moves to a bigger team in a bigger league and cry

[Balozi]

i heared yesterday there were a number of german teams at the game looking at curri. hannover and dortmund are between the interested clubs

too bad he had a horrible game though

[WisdomSeeker]

The 2 most interesting results yesterday was the 10-0 win of Poland over San Marino (difference of goals will surely be useful for the polish team at the end) and the shocking 6-1 defeat of Argentina against Bolivia!

poor Diego:D

[Alalzia]

vangjeli can't run? ok offensively maybe he is not brilliant but if that's the case it would explain in great extent why this team is 6th and like 10 points behind the 5th. they seem like clueless

aris fans watch till he moves to a bigger team in a bigger league and cry

Yes rumours say that he will move in Germany next season, he is not a creative player and Aris usually plays with wing backs so it isn't about ability but about style.
Also Aris has a history of not using players that do not renew their expiring contracts (like Papazoglou)

[Gjergji]

3-0 loss, i was out in my prediction i thought it would end 4-0

haan is so fuking clueless i could keep telling how clueless he is for the next 2 days

he should be fired asap. also i dont want to see in the NT dallku and hidi ever again. they are disgraceful amateurs

vangjeli was the best man in the game from both teams and i find it baffling how this guy is not getting any playing time in a totally unknown team. find a new team in a big league asap

I agree with you.

Hidi=disgrace ...i knew he would **** up some day because i watched him when he was playing for Tirana ,and he was making sh!t loads of mistakes + he is overrated. Lika or UJKANI Are much better.

Anyway the big joke here is once again ARIE HAAN ..another oh my god substitutions .lol .. Bylykbashi out and Beqiri who is C/B Or R/B played CM :worthy:O.o

I've never seen Albania so poor.
92 min football in danimark ,not even one shot in goal. :rant: ..right now even Andorra is better than us and this thanks to HAAN. USELESS ****.

[Balozi]

not to mention that beqiri should have been a starter at the back. why armend "blunder" dallku plays in there and not beqiri who is 2 classes over him is beyond me

[Darien]

Well Briegel said that he would come back if they made him an offer.

[Balozi]

when did he say that?

[Kitty]

Albania and Portugal are playing right now.

It's 1-1 at the moment.

[harvest]

Albania and Portugal are playing right now.

It's 1-1 at the moment.
Unbelievable! A team like Portugal can play the World Cup!?!?! It's a shame.

[Balozi]

1-2 with goal in the 93rd minute!

we always concede in the last minutes there must be something wrong with our psychology. i can remember at least 4-5 games in the last years when we conceded the losing goal after 85'. it's just stupid

portugal suck and i hope they dont qualify cause they dont deserve it in the slightest. denmark qualified after their victory and now im routing for sweden

btw 5 minutes extra time? what was that...

the highlight of the match though was that banner with ronaldo's face that said "miss world 2010" :gen112:

[harvest]

What about the fault on Bogdani, inside the box? Clear penalty and red card for the defender, but the referee didn't give anything...I am fed up with this kind of refereeing..same shit against Holland 2 years ago!

[Balozi]

well it wasnt that clear to be honest. but that and the 5 minutes aside the ref was pretty good he gave us a lot of fouls that on another day we wouldn't get

anyway it's stupid to concede at the 93th :(

[Gjergji]

I agree with you.

Hidi=disgrace ...i knew he would f.u.c.k up some day because i watched him when he was playing for Tirana ,and he was making sh!t loads of mistakes + he is overrated. Lika or UJKANI Are much better.

.

Here is my post after the match against danimark.
i won't write anything more about the second goal last night ..but just please KUZHE ..get HIDI out.

[Balozi]

indeed the guy is costing goals almost every match. it's baffling how this guy even has a professional contract

but in any case i dont think he should be blamed for the loss, despite that mistake he was decent and he did make a couple of good saves

[Balozi]

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/022v2ELbAH6La/610x.jpg

rofl

[Gjergji]

indeed the guy is costing goals almost every match. it's baffling how this guy even has a professional contract

but in any case i dont think he should be blamed for the loss, despite that mistake he was decent and he did make a couple of good saves

True , but no one will remember him for the good saves. He will be remembered always as the guy who cost us the Draw ,and the guy who let 2 easy goals in danimark,one of them from 40 yards.

Ps .Is funny how pappers don't talk much about Hidi ,but they talk sh1t about Cana or Skela when they are not playing at their best.:thumbdown

Anyway ...important is that we made C.Cuerioz eat his words and 10 milion portugeze crying until the 93 min :D

[Balozi]

the problem with our team is that they don't really believe they can compete. we need someone to make them really believe that they are equals until proven otherwise in the football pitch

at least dallku didn't play, that's an improvement

[Balozi]

we beat today cyprus in a friendly 6:1. i think it must be the best score we've ever had :D. a couple penalties were questionable tbh (they were 3 of them lol) but despite that, the score reflects what really happened in the game

salihi made an overhead kick that reminded me of that goal rivaldo scored against valencia. he was brilliant tonight =~)

[Balozi]

dnnzMLIIUBw

[kgram]

Shit.
We had a good game until 83" (playing with 10 since 42", with an impossible 2nd yellow card).

Now we need 3 out of 3 ( in theoretically "easy" games - Moldavia out, Latvia and Louxembourg in, to guarantee 2nd place in the group).

The nightmare of 2006 (when the loss in Albania costed us 3 points, and the 1st position), is again in front of us!

[kgram]

we beat today cyprus in a friendly 6:1. i think it must be the best score we've ever had :D. a couple penalties were questionable tbh (they were 3 of them lol) but despite that, the score reflects what really happened in the game

salihi made an overhead kick that reminded me of that goal rivaldo scored against valencia. he was brilliant tonight =~)

Ok with the friendly games of the national teams, but how close is the appearence of an albanian team in the groups stage of Champions League? This year for 2nd time there is a chypriot group in this stage ( last year Anorthosis, this year APOEL).

[Balozi]

well it's very far. but you cant possibly compare the economy of cypriot teams with albanian teams

[Alalzia]

True Cypriot teams are far richer but when it comes to national level Albania has many more choices because it is more than three times more populated.
It is like Greece playing Fyrom in basketball, Fyrom has a population of 2m and in Greece there are 300.000 basketball players :D

[Balozi]

we drawed 1-1 with denmark today, a very good result for us, considering we were 0-1 down by half time and that denmark are the group leaders. plus we're the only team to score against them beside portugal

[Balozi]

greece drawed with moldova. seems like you guys are out of the race for 1st place

a couple years ago i thought greece would cruise in this group but i guess i was proven wrong

[kgram]

greece drawed with moldova. seems like you guys are out of the race for 1st place

a couple years ago i thought greece would cruise in this group but i guess i was proven wrong

FIFA should change ther rules : football games must last 80 minutes. The last 10 minutes are prooven to ne a disaster for the greek team.

Anyway, the draw of Switzerland in Latvia, makes the next game, Greece-Latvia a final for the 2nd place!

[Balozi]

heh. well albania is an expert at conceding injury time goals :P

[Balozi]

4-1 pwned in sweden. well it was to be expected i guess. we played really bad and of course dallku :bash:. for the first time in recent history though, we were dangerous from set pieces

[Alalzia]

You can not realistically expect to win Sweden..

Greece killed the beast by winning Luxembourg 2-1 , the Luxembourgians were playing with 10 players since 57' .


Now we will proceed to the play outs .

[WisdomSeeker]

The way we have been playing,i say we stay at home than qualify and get ridiculed.The team plays realy bad!

[harvest]

Hope to have Greece in our group next time then :)

[Balozi]

well it cant be that bad, we drew malta!

[kgram]

The way we have been playing,i say we stay at home than qualify and get ridiculed.The team plays realy bad!

Greek fans today are bitter about the team and the coach (Otto Rechagel) but the clear facts are the following :

This team and coach got 2004 Euro.

Greece lost the 2006 World cup , because in the prelliminary round we lost in Athens from Ucraine. If this match ended in a draw, we would be first in the group and would have qualified. all the rest games during ths round ended according to shedule ( 6 points from weak teams, 3-4 points from competititors - draw in Ucraine, but unfortunatelly loss from Ucraine in Athens).

Greece perticipated in Euro 2008 (I believe none expected that we will take the cup again).

2nd place in the preliminaries for the World cup 2010, again because of a loss in Athens from Switzerland. If that match was a draw, we would be first. (actually we could be 1rst even having lost 2 times from the swiss, if we won in Moldavia, because the first Swiss were so unstable in their performance).

Any way in this tournament a team like Greece would expect 18 points from the theoretically weak teams (Latvia, Moldavia, Louxembourg), (we got 16), 4 points from the outsider (Israel) (we got them), and 2 draws or 1 victory with the competitor (Switzerland, we lost 2ice). So in the whole tournament the team and the coach is to be blamed for 2 games - the draw in Moldavia, and the loss from Switzerland in Athens - if only 1 of these games was a victory, we wourd be first.

What I want to say to greek fans is that the national team with Otto played some 100 games, and when the goal was not achieved, it was because of 1-2 games, which also weren't critixal at the time they were played.

Before Otto and these players the greek national team simply not existed in european and world levels.

Europe has 53 teams, and only 9 were qualified for World Cup. (we came 1 game away from being one of them - 1 point, or 1 victory away instead a draw).
To be among the next 8, that will fight for qualification at play-offs, is still very important.

Don't shoot the team and Otto! Just because the got the cup once, we are not Spain, Germany, France, England, Italy, Russia, Nederlands, Portugal, etc to consider our place among the first as granded, and a 2nd place in a qualification group as total failure!

[Balozi]

Before Otto and these players the greek national team simply not existed in european and world levels.
that sums it up. but i guess greek fans started getting greedy :P

[Alalzia]

that sums it up. but i guess greek fans started getting greedy :P

Those "Greek fans" are :
* housewifes looking for a man
* people unrelated to football wanna feel proud about "being Greeks"
* Nazis who want to yell nationalistic chants against Turkey & hunt Albanians in the roads around the stadium
*Politicians who love their face in TV
*Various "yes men" of the federation

Real football fans do not wanna deal with those kind of people.

[WisdomSeeker]

This team and coach got 2004 Euro.

True,and we have worshipped Otto and the rest of the team in a way never seen before for any athlete.This is history though,and noone expects to repeat the most amazing miracle on a sports level worldwide in any sport!


Greece perticipated in Euro 2008 (I believe none expected that we will take the cup again).


True,while Greece was handed a tough group again,being drawn with Spain (the team which won the tournament),Russia (the revelation of the tournament) and Sweden, we ended up last on the group with 1-5 goals for/against,nearly not scoring at all and presenting a poor teamplay and underachieving overall since the team was STRONGER and more talented than the winner one 4 years ago on an individual level.


2nd place in the preliminaries for the World cup 2010, again because of a loss in Athens from Switzerland. If that match was a draw, we would be first. (actually we could be 1rst even having lost 2 times from the swiss, if we won in Moldavia, because the first Swiss were so unstable in their performance).

You forgot to say that Greece was the highily favourite to win the group,as we have been drawn in the EASIEST group of all,with a most effective match schedule for us.


What I want to say to greek fans is that the national team with Otto played some 100 games, and when the goal was not achieved, it was because of 1-2 games, which also weren't critixal at the time they were played.

Nope,it was because Otto is a stubborn 70 y.o coach who stubbornly picks up the same players over and over again,no matter what. I cannot accept the fact that he has been picking up players that have noot been playing isnce last March!,not even training with the first teams on their clubs. (Seitaridis,Tziolis) OR are not in their top physical condition (Karagkounis). It is natural that the team performs poorly.


Before Otto and these players the greek national team simply not existed in european and world levels.


Of course,that is true 100%. But since we have overachieved in 2004,and since noone believes within Greece that this is a repeatable thing,does that mean we should return to those poor levels prior to 2004? Greek fans expect from the team to make one step forward,even if a small one,not sitting on the big success of 2004 and not criticizing the team at all,especially when we see actions that are totally out of football logic.Resulting the team not getting the results...


Europe has 53 teams, and only 9 were qualified for World Cup. (we came 1 game away from being one of them - 1 point, or 1 victory away instead a draw).
To be among the next 8, that will fight for qualification at play-offs, is still very important.

Don't shoot the team and Otto! Just because the got the cup once, we are not Spain, Germany, France, England, Italy, Russia, Nederlands, Portugal, etc to consider our place among the first as granded, and a 2nd place in a qualification group as total failure!

The issue here is that while we are almost all fans of our respective football clubs,we like them to win in any way,we are more demanding from our national teams.

While we dont care if our clubs play well or poorly,(the only important thing is to win the championship),we demand from our national team to play well and present a decent image on an international level,since it is the most representative sample of our national football. That is why the critics have always been hard on them,especially when we see crazy things happening on their pre-game gathering.

[Balozi]

russia 2:1 slovenia
portugal 1:0 bosnia
greece 0:0 ukraine

all duels are still open, although the balkan teams took the worst of it in this first play-off round

in other news estonia 0:0 albania in a dull match and belgium 3:0 hungary

[Balozi]

ukraine 0:1 greece
bosnia 0:1 portugal
slovenia 1:0 russia

so greece and slovenia will join serbia in the world cup

i dont know if any other balkan teams progressed

[Alalzia]

I expect a summer of hell , syrtaki on the radio , glorious chants on TV , DAMNATION!

[kgram]

True,and we have worshipped Otto and the rest of the team in a way never seen before for any athlete.This is history though,and noone expects to repeat the most amazing miracle on a sports level worldwide in any sport!



True,while Greece was handed a tough group again,being drawn with Spain (the team which won the tournament),Russia (the revelation of the tournament) and Sweden, we ended up last on the group with 1-5 goals for/against,nearly not scoring at all and presenting a poor teamplay and underachieving overall since the team was STRONGER and more talented than the winner one 4 years ago on an individual level.



You forgot to say that Greece was the highily favourite to win the group,as we have been drawn in the EASIEST group of all,with a most effective match schedule for us.



Nope,it was because Otto is a stubborn 70 y.o coach who stubbornly picks up the same players over and over again,no matter what. I cannot accept the fact that he has been picking up players that have noot been playing isnce last March!,not even training with the first teams on their clubs. (Seitaridis,Tziolis) OR are not in their top physical condition (Karagkounis). It is natural that the team performs poorly.




Of course,that is true 100%. But since we have overachieved in 2004,and since noone believes within Greece that this is a repeatable thing,does that mean we should return to those poor levels prior to 2004? Greek fans expect from the team to make one step forward,even if a small one,not sitting on the big success of 2004 and not criticizing the team at all,especially when we see actions that are totally out of football logic.Resulting the team not getting the results...



The issue here is that while we are almost all fans of our respective football clubs,we like them to win in any way,we are more demanding from our national teams.

While we dont care if our clubs play well or poorly,(the only important thing is to win the championship),we demand from our national team to play well and present a decent image on an international level,since it is the most representative sample of our national football. That is why the critics have always been hard on them,especially when we see crazy things happening on their pre-game gathering.

Now that we qualified for WC 2010:


Greek national team with OTTO (sep 2001-today):

A. 100 games, 52 wins, 26 draws, 22 losses : A bad record, in your opinion?

B. 4 qualification rounds (WC 2006,2010, EURO 2004, 2008) : Qualified 3 times out of 4. Before Otto, in 60 years one participation in EURO (Italy) and one in World CUP (USA, 1994). The only time the team was not qualified (WC 2006) it was due to a goal at the last 10 min, in the game 0-1 against Ucraine. - the results of the other 9 games were according to the typical Otto plan ( 6 points from the weaks of the group, 4-3 points from the competitors).

C. The myth : Greece had an easy group.
Well, there are 53 National teams in Europe, therefore there are 8 groups of six and 1 group of 5.

The weakeast team in the group of Greece was Louxembourg - the equivalents in the other 8 groups were Andorra, San Marino, Liechtenstein, Feroe Islands, Mondenegro, and other powerful football nations.

THis analusis can continue for the second , 3rd etc weak team.

The only think that can be said -and is true, is that Greece could be first in the group without really deserving it - since Greece is not among the first 7 strongest teams of Europe ( I can name Germany, Italy, Spain, England, France, Russia, Nederlands), but in the last dacade due to its results Greece can claim a position amongst the next 12 ( Portugal, Serbia, Sweden, Danemark, Croatia, Tsech Rep., Romania, Turkey, Switzerland, Greece, Ucraine and maybe Norway or Belgium). So the 2nd position in the qualification round of WC ( with 9 groups, that it means that Greece is among the 18 strongest out of the 53 european teams, is a normal result - the only thing that we did not like was that in our group the first was another typical 2nd.